See the pattern there? Steven OReilly made the obvious point in a tweet underneath Timothy Gordons (4-13-20, 5:20 PM): The problem is, in order to unite the clans, as in the analogy, a William Wallace is needed. What if its true, Eric? Look at what the Church says on the matter: [link] (4-12-20, 9:43 PM), Debating an issue is fragging? Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall. . Tag Archives: Timothy Gordon Post navigation. Too many apologists are gurus with groupies. Do not be deceived, my fellow Catholics. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable[.] [2] He is a founder of the New Saint Thomas Institute, an online Catholic theology educational program, and the Troops of Saint George, a Catholic scouting organization. (10:21 AM), Honestly: All I care about is the truth. For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. You are just another false prophet. Hypocrite. College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More, Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign, "The Secret Society of Priests Who Hate Pope Francis", "Not All Evangelicals and Catholics Together", "Why it's harder to become a Catholic than a Protestant", "New priests ordained, church buildings blessed", "Why Won't The New Saint Thomas Institute Respond To Their Customers? The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. [15] His 2019 book, Infiltration, claims to demonstrate that, over the last two centuries, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church has been actively subverted to promote Freemasonic power. He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. I await your reply, Taylor Its sophistical to claim (ever) that its too late for civility. Its quite strange, no? (9:16 PM), Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. Earlier still, on April 12th, Gordon tweeted: Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. He never said. (3:13 PM), It seems possible to do with some but not most SSPX attendees, namely the ones w/o the schismatic attitude How do you unite the clans with those who call us FSSP bootlickers, a common attitude among SSPX ever since FSSP broke off. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Why we need to stop validating the word feminism (namely its toxic meaning) with some kind of nice adjective, like Christian feminism, new feminism.. EWTN, Catholic Answers or their personal blog? (9:58 PM), Lefebvre voted for EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT. I love dialogue; I care about Taylor; most of all, I love the truth. Another wrong SSPX talking point. But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis, Agreed that there was a modernist intent going in. (4:02 PM), Why all the handwringing about civility? To fulfill the positive precepts required of Catholics, we must submit our minds and hearts to the teachings of the Magisterium, including non-infallible teachings of the Pope. I can get over combat fast, cuz Ive done a lot of literal and figurative fighting[.]. Unfortunately, he ceased to be Catholic in 2019, when he committed public formal schism by saying, about Pope Francis: I resist him to his face. [In Terra Pax Hominibus; Denzinger 351-353.]. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. Brothers squabbling a bit is the inevitable cost of abandonment by our spiritual fathers; all of us have various talents, but none of us have authority to pronounce on theological questions. Dwight Longenecker tweeted similarly: When Catholics set themselves up to judge and condemn popes and bishops its not long before they are judging and condemning one another. We have to be able to have discussion, Nonsense. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. Clarify where correct; apologize where incorrect. (9-7-21), LIVE: Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall (9-8-21). [2][7], From January 2012 until June 2013, Marshall served as the chancellor of the now-defunct College of Saints John Fisher & Thomas More. They received confirmation from Bishop Kevin Vann in May 2006. PS: this isnt a big deal. Theres a lot of nonsense being asserted about the SSPX lately online. Therefore, he has chosen to depart from the Catholic Church. He does this by examining the history of the conflict between Church and Freemasonry, examining many recent private revelations and prophecies, and tying these to the undeniably unsettling developments within the Church in the last 60 years. My brand CANT be damaged by defending the ONE HOLY CHURCH against outsiders who claim my Sunday obligation isnt fulfilled if I attend novus. That's it? [5], Shortly thereafter, in 2006, he and his wife converted to Catholicism. . He is the author of multiple books, including the 2019 bestselling book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. You are living in objective sin and leading others into that sin, by your heresy and schism. This shouldnt be engaged in public. * What Saint Bellarmine really said about Popes and Heresy. And so thats the situation that were in. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks, Tertullian's Eucharistic Theology: Lucas Banzoli vs. J.N.D. Now he is attacking people whose sandals he is unworthy to untie. Thats my ecclesiastical position. but for all negative comments about them. by Dr Taylor Marshall. No one has the authority to do that, as the Popes decisions are not subject to review. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. (7:58 PM), I called him yesterday. I used to believe this nonsense as well. that every Pope has immunity from error by the gift of God, divinely-conferred. . Oh, really? Press J to jump to the feed. Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. In this video, I critique Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon's portrayal of Henri de Lubac's theology of nature and grace. If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, you will love this podcast. So Marshall believes that Pope Francis has espoused particular heretical ideas. In another video, Taylor Marshall says this: I think the Pope has said heretical things. Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. And when Marshall says more hereticalthan anything in Amoris Laetitia, he implies a further accusation, that Amoris Laetitia contains heresy. The current dust-up has far more potentially serious consequences, as I will show. Theyre conceptually different[.] Whats obtuse is a hermeneutic of intentionalism instead of a hermeneutic of textualism, Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Its not a matter of opinion. erred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Shall we list the many who have done this? Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). We patiently wait, endure, and we resist.. Reactionary Infiltration of Taylor Marshalls Book, Traditionalism vs. A subreddit to help you keep up to date with what's going on with reddit and other stuff. It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. There is no clearly statement of the public sin of schism than for a Catholic to say, I resist him to his face. You are not absolved of schism by stating that you recognize he is the Pope. Photographed by, Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. any waypublic or privateto reconcile with TM is good. It becomes like the infighting of pope-less Eastern Orthodoxy. Catholics are drama queens[.] Dont worry brother[.] Radical Catholic reactionaries love to habitually go up to the line but not quite goover it. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. I enjoy and respect them both. Mind your business Steve [Skojec]. I dont believe (never have) as Dave does that formal schism is most likely. He specifically said that the plurality of religion is due to the permissive will of God. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks. Reactionary Civil War Heating Up Over Taylor Marshall? Distinctions matter, Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. All of us, me included. He is putting himself above the Pope, to judge his teachings to be gravely erroneous. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. Under the dogma of the First Vatican Council, no valid Pope can possibly teach heresy or grave error, nor fail in faith. Line by line commentary by Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. But after the fact of our sinfulness, our fallenness, our brokenness, given that many persons are weak in many ways, and so cannot bring themselves to accept the Catholic religion, God permits them other paths to salvation, which are nevertheless always through Christ and His Church (even though they may not realize this). Lets have robust discussion about the status of the SSPX (whom I still hold to be in objective schism) going forward, but in a spirit of Christian fraternity and unity. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text[.] Because there are so many other awesome channels out there, and knowing this man publicly berated those who accept FSSP or NO in their life pilgrimage is no different than calling them rabble. So God wills first and foremost that all human persons come to the Catholic religion, to find the fullness of truth. And he states this again, more specifically later in the video. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up[.] Its intolerable[.] And it is contrary to the above discussed dogma that no Pope can teach heresy or grave error, i.e. But what God wants is fraternity among us and in a special way, this was the reason for the trip, with our brothers, Abrahams children like us, the Muslims. Are they clarifying or scarifying? This critique hinges on the implicit denial of Catholic doctrine and prudence: dismissal of the conspiracy because it is a conspiracy. What, Marshall seems to be asking, would Rambo do? Neutral and objective. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Marshall: I honestly think that the safest position is this is the Pope we have right now. I ask everyone to pray for all parties involved. Look at what the Church says on the matter: Debating an issue is fragging? He is, in a video far too tedious to link to, claiming that they are cowards. Bottom line: Timothy Gordon is clearly trying to reach out to Taylor and stop the disunity; Taylor Marshall wants no part of it. Joseph Shaw, chairman of The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales, himself a radical Catholic reactionary, has dissed the even more extreme Taylor Marshall. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me, : Im happy to chat, do a show, slap high fives and come together about the (majority) stuff we agree on OR do a civil show about the (minority) stuff we disagree on. Also for the record, Ive never been certain why Taylor opted for non-renewal during the peak of TNT popularity. (. Delighted to hear that! Why all the handwringing about civility? This statement is posted on the FSSP website, and on Shaws own website. (3) And this teaching, which is also a Law of the Church: The First See is judged by no one (Canon 1404). Without them we would be without the Sacraments. Its not the first time. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn. Youll see the term Catholic Used Book Service, which is my old side-business. (9:16 PM), My sole issue with his Easter tweet was that he retracted his previous due criticisms of the SSPX, which I worried would nudge many of the faithful to attend SSPX liturgy, which would endanger the less-educated in the Faith, since they will more readily succumb to therebellious mindset of the Society towards VC II and towards the Novus Ordo, a mindset that is condemned by the Church. Patrick is the Canadian-born former host of Catholic Answers Live, and he has raving fans around the world. are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. [21] Marshall, on his YouTube channel, regularly comments on statements from Vigan. Traditionis Custodes: Sky is Here After Four Months! We must not fear differences. Without them we would be without the Sacraments. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. (3:43 PM), I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. God bless our most holy, ardent, bold, yet obedient priests of the TLM! Discussion in 'Coffee House' started by torrentum, Apr 16, 2020. Gordon Dalbey. You get the picture. (12:11 AM), The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. I cant fully access Taylor Marshalls tweets because he blocked me, but I can get at some: I am grateful to the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, by whom our Marshall family received the Resurrected Body of Christ on this Easter Morn. Same here but for a different reason. And he makes this absolutely clear later in the video: Marshall: Its like Paul in Galatians, he could resist Peter to his face, but he couldnt depose Peter. There are two hawks in LaBelle. He is refusing to be taught by Pope Francis. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism[.] And most of these people think you're scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. Thats heteropraxy, not heterodoxy. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. Acta non verba. What would be the reaction of some knuckle-headed character played by Mel Gibson? Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. Gotta be two-sided though. Anyways, I kind of enjoyed these podcasts when I had the free time and was still learning about Catholicism, but as classes have ramped up, I admit to having stopped listening to a lot of them since I have very little free time now (I now listen to maybe a couple from Dr. Marshall here and there). They stopped being men and became guys, and now, in tragic numbers, feckless soy boys. I am living my life and have no time for their judgments over my soul and my family. Only dad does. (4-14-20, 4:23 PM), Im blocking the 3 Gordons because they will not drop it regarding me and the SSPX. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. - And since this gift is of prevenient grace, it admits of no exception. Husband, and Father to 8 children. Their many gods are a reflection of human failings. They have eight children. Hence, we will see divisions and in-fighting amongst the reactionaries when one makes a move further right, because being a reactionary is all about being ones own pope (the more so, the more influential and famous one becomes within the movement). The Spirit also works with unbelievers, such as atheists and agnostics, so that they might find salvation by loving their neighbor, and thereby may implicitly know and love God. Copyright A.D. 2018 Catholic Stand | Powered by Astra, The Slow Death of ManhoodDr. (11:32 PM). If this separates me from Taylor Marshall and his more deranged fans, so much the better. Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander[.] Shaws statement excoriating Taylor Marshall on the same page, was cross-posted, along with the joint letter, at reactionary venue Rorate Caeli, in apparent agreement. Sep 08, 2021. Self-described feminist singer Paula Cole had a hit single in 1996 titled Where Have All the Cowboys Gone, in which she bemoaned the dearth of real men (Where is my John Wayne; where is my prairie song; where is my happy ending; where have all the cowboys gone?). Please take a look at this list of my books and booklets, and see if any topic interests you. I do. Another wrong SSPX talking point. Even atheists recognize that fact. Can we talk about that? Not gonna tweet anymore on this[. Lets take this offline, bro. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. Sorry Gordons, but this seems to be the only way. He has helped countless people find tradition. (12:36 PM), Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. I don't know what happened first, but since then, what little I have listened to from Dr. Marshall, Voris, and Gordon since then has not mentioned each other by name at all, telling me that things might not be so amicable. They acted like old buddies and intellectual "colleagues." Two laymen with a youtube channel, spreading the news about the Pachamama dunker guy, etc. Wherever it leads. . Im delighted to see the recognition of Marshalls wacko conspiratorial extremism (better late than never). Ronald L. Conte Jr. Honesty check time[.] And since Marshall does accuse Pope Francis of heresy, later in the video, he is not in submission or communion with the Pope. But the debate should be: a) not avoided and b) CIVIL[.] It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. It had become clear we didnt agree about Taylors evolving position on the SSPX, but I wished to continue: we were still bringing souls to the Church together, which matters most to me[.] Show me where I called you a single name. He didnt. I can get over combat fast, cuz Ive done a lot of literal and figurative fighting, Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. Wow! . We should be afraid were we to fail to work fraternally to walk together in life.. Please say a prayer for me. In this video, I address the recent controversy surrounding Taylor Marshall's comments on the SSPX, Dave and Tim Gordon's reactions to it, and arguments that. Tim appeared regularly on Marshall's YouTube show until early 2020, with the pair calling themselves TNT - Taylor and Tim. Ego kills. And Francis gave the above statement, essentially as a reply, saying, Yes, it is Gods permissive will. But its certainly here now. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. Roman Catholic theologian and translator of the Catholic Public Domain Version of the Bible. Imagine being me in this situation. In the course of the discussion, Marshall commits public heresy and schism. Because there are many religions, and why are there many religions? You are wrong on all of these things. Marshall and Gordon have each appeared on her YouTube channel, and Nicholas has interacted with her tweets more than 100 times since 2017. Im of the opinion that TM is an opportunist who does more harm than good bc he keeps the barking going. The SSPX equaling formal schism stuff is wrong, as far as I know. And we must accept the Pope, not merely as someone who holds an office, but truly as our very own Teacher and Shepherd. Will do whatever I can. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. 2 or 3 of them. The Novus Ordo is invalid or objectively offensive to God. Im always in need of more funds: especially. He was acting as a good father. (2:00 PM), Yes theres a new theology that needs to be rejected. Of course, some so-called religions have no substantial good in them. (9:58 PM), Someone close to Taylor, tell him to return my call. They do not teach the love of God, nor the love of neighbor. But the meaning of the Council inheres in the text, The world of text, hermeneutic, jurisprudence. What would a resurrection of men look like? He sent a diplomatic text insinuating there wouldnt be a call. Steve Skojec opined on 4-14-20 (5:10 PM): Our coalition is dwindling, . If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, this is the place to be. Unfortunately, we have a number of chieftains, some with significant egos; and no William Wallace. Marshall: I just dont see where anyone on earth can judge the Supreme Pontiff.. [25], Marshall briefly received attention from Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign for popularizing Archbishop Vigan's letter warning of a deep state working to undermine the United States of America. (1:54 PM), The issue is that the texts are to be presumed faithful unless specifically heretical, even if their drafters used weaponized ambiguity[.] He also says that during Abby's surgery this past weekend, Taylor tweeted some private and confidential sensitive information about Tim's household, having obtained that information as a result of his (former) close friendship with Tim. But youre not understanding that conciliar documents need to be interpreted under the construction most optimally faithful to Tradition, wherever possible. . Even an atheist will acknowledge that. 163: Is it OK to Criticize Pope Francis? Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. (4:22 PM), PS: this isnt a big deal. Taylor had highly recommended my work for years, thanked me in at least one of his books, and carried an ad for my books on his site for several years. When they reach the seventh accusation against Pope Francis, Marshall again accuses the Pope of heresy. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. (, This bodes very ill for the future unity of the reactionary revolt, seeing that both Shaw and Sammons are part of, Steve Skojec, founder and former editor at, The entire trad movement has become a chorus of barking dogs. Cuz the Church wont clarify. Quasi-schism is starting to fade . But Trads have flatly misunderstood religious freedom in Dignitatis: read Leo XIIIs IMMORTALE DEI 36, which Trads reject Dave and I agree 100%about Dignitatis[.] Sorry to see him go, but pride goeth before a fall. (9:16 PM), To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. And yet his accusers ignore his statements which agree with their point of view! He made it sound like he called back, Steve. (4-12-20: Easter Sunday, 6:25 AM), Shots fired by Retrograde Gordon Bros against Marshall. For the penalty for formal schism is automatic excommunication, making him also unworthy to receive Communion. I recently chronicled the split between Taylor. I think youre, closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will, In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that. [16] Marshall was noticed by the campaign in return, and retweeted on the president's Twitter account. I recognize Pope Francis as the Pope. Taylor Marshall and the rad trad movement in general is adding onto the liturgical and spiritual problems the Church has been facing in the West. And now at each others throats, acting like enemies, over one difference of opinion? He wont call back. Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. (3:17 PM), Imagine being me in this situation. Shock horror. No particular deference is due to him (think Protestant). But now and then, a high-profile reactionary actually becomes more diabolically self-consistent (though further from the truth) and ventures over the line. FOR THE RECORD: HE ENDED TNT. People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months[. Ive been reaching out for months; just defending myself against slander, no pattern except that I wish them both welltheyre both Catholics with whom I mostly agree Trent [Horn]: a smart dude I barely know & only spoke with thrice; Taylor: a smart dude I know WELLspoke to him daily for over a year, until he abruptly/mostly stopped replying to texts/calls. Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven, Im not a grudge holder. Yet he also says that no one may judge the Pope. If it is an apologists opinion, not the teaching of the Church I ask, Do you receive the Sacraments from so and so? Do you go to your apologist when you have a problem in your marriage? Where does so and so receive authority to teach? (2:20 AM), My homeboy@SteveSkojec (accidentally) mischaracterized my position, which is actually schismatic attitude in many/most attendees (but not all)[.] Ill speak to ANY of these guys Ive ever crossed swords with. (3:54 PM), Yes, Dave and I disagree on stuff. So it is not Pope Francis teaching that God positively wills many religions. Thank you! You may not prefer your own understanding of the Faith over the teaching of the Papal Magisterium. (3:02 PM), [DorotaG had tweeted (4-12-20, 11:01 PM): My bishop in endangering my soul and the boot licking FSSP is nowhere to offer a real mass. Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. Everyone KNOWS what the modernists were trying to do. Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments. Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of heresy on the plurality of religions, and of violating one of the Ten Commandments. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. 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