Current management for the Antonine Shopping Centre insisted the new owners are "completely separate from any previous owners and any policies they had in place at that time". Ultimately, if you are not happy with how they deal with your case, I believe they are members of the British Parking Association, a trade body and you should have a further right to appeal to them. To Posters (it is important you read this section), Tell us whether you're in England, Wales, Scotland, or NI as the laws in each are very different. As I could find no car parking spaces where there was something suitable to lock my motorcycle to, I looked for an area where I would not be causing an obstruction, but where my motorcycle was secure. Advice Scotland uses cookies when you visit the website. However, I would just suggest contacting them and asking (see here). Do English Bailiffs have any rights in Scotland? It will apply across the whole of the UK. A couple of years ago I received a parking 'fine' for 100 after parking in a poorly-lit car park which I erroneously believed was free after 8pm. Keeping this cookie enabled helps us to improve our website. What is the likely hood of being taken to county court? Generally the principle about private parking fines is you have parked in a designated parking area, that had signs on display that tell you the terms of parking there (length of time etc.) We actually never seen the signs, also the chip shop should have told us to put our car registration number into a box on the wall and that would have dealt with it. As a result is it enforceable? Over 200,000 Scots likely to get a 25 Court Order Fee in 2022. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} Ultimately, it is for a court to decide if the charge is reasonable or not; but it should be borne in mind, if a challenge is made on these grounds and unsuccessful, not only may you have to pay the charge, but also the other partys legal costs. It provides the Secretary of State with new powers to issue guidance to private parking firms and to issue guidance relating to fees and penalties. In short, there could be a County Court Judgement (CCJ) against you for an unpaid debt. I have asked the shop manager to deal with the firm for us an let them know that we were customers, but they wont. Thanks for any help/advice you can offer. Legal Basis for Parking Charge Notices What makes these charges legal is they are based on contract law. They may do this, but its probably at their discretion, so you cannot force them. Thanks Colin. We did not read any of the signage pertaining to car parking as I was with a registed blind person and we were busy dodging puddles in what was a very poorly drained area during a heavy rain shower. In their letter they state I am now no longer able to appeal the parking charge and my next opportunity to dispute the charge would be if the matter was taken to court. An organisation called Parkmaven has issued me with a fine of 100 (reduced to 60 if paid within 28 days) for a stay of 28m 52s. If I was ever there in the first place! It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one. I reached out to them asking for evidence of the contravention. They cannot just add on penalties etc, there must be a legal basis to them, so they must have been stated on the Ts and Cs on the sign. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. So very much enforcible and not a scam. They are a service charge that private landowners and car park owners can charge when you park on their land. If you are having problems with a debt collector, you could also try our low-cost legal advice partner, Just Answer. The fine has now increased to over 600. However, also tell them her partner was a customer. They could also get their legal expenses, which could significantly increase the amount you owe. To be part of the Approved Operators Scheme, the Firm must be registered with the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community, both of which are trade bodies. It says in a lot of the guidance detail about private parking that the terms & conditions must be displayed in a place prior to you entering the parking lot. But William, from Calverton, Notts., has no recollection of ever being in the shopping centres car park - and claims he has never even shopped inside. You dont need to provide this information, but its unlikely they will stop pursuing you unless you do. I suppose I would take a commonsense sort of approach. The penalties from DCBL Ltd. were all priced at a hefty 100, with a further 70 admin fee attached to each one. In 2017-18, Firms registered with these bodies purchased details of over 5 million car owners from the DVLA. If you don't have the time or just need a bit of guidance, then we can get put you in touch with a specialist. A receipt can help to show she was in the store at the right time and was shopping. At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, This case is not subject to High Court or Baillif action. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If a firm is not registered and, therefore, not part of the Approved Operators Scheme, they are unlikely to be able to find out who you are from the DVLA. They, therefore, then give it to another Firm. I have received a PCN of 100 for allegedly overstaying in a car park in Scotland. All these companies can do is ask you to repay the debt. Can you give me further advise please? Click here to make a no-obligation enquiry. The cookies that Advice Scotland use are set by third party providers, who use them to supply us with statistics about the site. Three times we were there and no one told us this. They added the team would have transferred to the current owners upon sale. He would not be able to appeal as multiple fines. You can find out more about which cookies we are using or switch them off in settings. In short, you might have a legal obligation to pay the parking fine in Scotland and theres no getting out of it. The penalties from DCBL Ltd. were all priced at a hefty 100, with a further 70 admin fee attached to each one. Is this legal in so much as parking was free anyway, so Braehead has not lost any monies by me parking as I did? 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States - previously wrote at a different address, 14 days to pay 170 or result in recommending legal action. It is also noted that the signs in the car park are clear, and they state that should they pass the debt to a third party for collection, they they will apply an additional 60 charge. Ultimately, these fines can be legally enforced, so dont ignore them. They should provide time stamped photographs of her car entering, leaving and also entering again. One way of avoiding that is to take the person to Court and the debt can recovered for up to 20 years. You may want to show them your receipt). They have passed this to a third party, but the third party (ZZPS) has added a 70 charge. Some may choose not to write to them until they receive a letter through the post from the Firm. This is because if court action is started without you receiving a reply then you can present the letter to the court. The fine can be taken to Court with a view to obtaining a Court Order. What makes these charges legal is they are based on contract law. October 2019 sorry for potato quality, I took the pic and it was good quality then just uploaded weird, Post this on the pepipoo forums: http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60. 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