It's not what you buy, it's what you build. http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?17287-Your-Guide-to-the-727-904-transmission, http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=81058&postcount=46, http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showpost.php?p=81407&postcount=52. It's definitely not a bolt in deal. i also found that it would have been cheaper to do the k member swap.because for me headers fitting right was an issue. This makes engine swaps very easy, if you have a V-8 K-member. also, I got a A-833 o/d too, it'll handle about 300hp, so anything over a stock 318, and you'll need a 8 3/4 rear end to handle the power. I do plan on keeping the a230 for at least the time being. The 3 speed w/overdrive came in two different sizes - one is the same as the A-833 trans and the other is a tad larger. So aside from the bear minimum of the engine itself, a radiator, bell housing , drilled crankshaft, and the engine mounts, the rest of it is pretty much the same for slants vs 318s? Then there should be no problem save the mounts being crushed/worn. It's been a while but I think the tranny is different because of the engine angle, I was thinking it changed the location of the starter etc. by Hobcobble Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:15 pm, Post Swap out your Slant 6 for a B/RB big block V8 power-plant with this engine swap set. how much work to swap out the engine to the six?..am new to dodgesb so bear with me. I think mounting to the crossmember is the same. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. ihated bending the NEW headers on the passenger side becaause they ratteled against the frame.save yourself the trouble and swap kmembers and even use the m body motor mounts as well. I'm dry fitting my 318 block to my 72 k frame. and one things not right. I've had this /6 in this car for way too many years. You are using an out of date browser. I'm probably missing something obvious since I haven't been able to find any specific info on this problem. i used a904 with manual reverse valv bodyand tci 3500 converter. Just doing some parts lookup.looks like the V8 clutch is a 10.5" 23-spline set up. I've done two /6 - sb and one /6 - big block. 2. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Jul 21, 2021 #2 Aspen500 Well-Known Member. View Product Details. The 383/400 are B-series engines and the 413/426/440 are RB engines. Chassis Swap Kit. As said, the BB mopar bellhousings are mech. When i did th swap on mine i used the slant 6 radiator. The E-body is the easiest to swap engines in, due to the fact that it was produced for five years and every V-8 except the 273 was offered. Somebody please list out the parts needed so I can start buying. Example: a '66 Charger with a 318 can become a 383 or 440 car with relative ease. Continue with Recommended Cookies. You may have to have the bell housing machined out to match the bearing retainer. by Daddiojoe Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:28 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, **OPEN TECHNICAL HELP FOR ALL SWEPTLINE MODELS AND PROBLEMS**, My 318 is a tired- am considering swapping into the truck a 225 slant six- how much work?? Going . Did your desired combination ever exist? He told me that when you're talking autos, then its the case, bellhousings are on manuals. The splines are the sameit may work or it may not. Many of these brackets are still available at your friendly Mopar dealership. The mounts look like any of the pictures I've seen say they should. As far as the trans is concerned I have already done my homework on the transfer of the a230 into an A833od trans but that will also be part of my long term goal. Headers and bracket kits are designed specifically for your Charger, Dart, Cuda, Challenger, Valiant, and many others. i did that swap. just find one with a318/360 and there is the rest of your brackets for conversion also.using the shumacker mounts on f body requires grinding on your 6 cyl k frame which it end ever reusing with a 6 again. and they said u couldnt run ac with that huge intake. There are three basic combinations with this body style. They're about $20. We and our partners use cookies to Store and/or access information on a device. A person might still be able to use them. The 904 trans from the slant 6 will not work Schumacher makes motor V-8 mounts for /6 k-frames. i have a 73 plymouth duster, with a slant six, 3spd auto im pretty shure its a 904 trans, and a 8 1/4 rearend, will a 318 bolt right in to the transmission, please help,, i was going to get those shumacker small block conversion motor mounts so thats taken care of You need a k-frame front end from a V8 car. I have been wanting to swap the Slant Six for a 318 that is now in an 87 Ram. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. thanks John, 1971 4-eyed Shortbed D100 225 /6 727 AT 3.23 rear running on Sweet Lady Propane, *SUSPENSION/BRAKES/STEERING/TIRES HELP*. Any reputable machine shop can handle that (cheaper than scouring for another bellhousing). linkage. Schumacher Creative Services, Inc. 951.440.8340 Swap out the K-member now, as it's only 4 bolts, some suspension removal and re-assembly, then bolt the V8 right in, stock or Schumacher mounts. Chrysler drilled the back side of crankshafts for a pilot bushing which the manual transmission input shaft slides into/rides on. 1978 W150 Ex Cab 360 2bbl/727/NP203/D44-8.25, swap oil pan to truck, dont forget to change the dip stick too, engine mounts change to truck, change water pump to trucks, radiator inlet is on the wrong side change it over to trucks, the ecm or computer I think it worked but change it over too, hoses , trans swap it over to A casting , starter is the same, alt is the same , get the pulleys and brackets, throttle cable is a little long swap it over . You can actually swap to a V8 K frame and bolt in a V8 with factory parts. Just make sure transmission cooler lines to not rub anything or each other! Many [San Antonio Mopar Club] members want to make engine changes from one family to another. NOTE: The driver's side mounting perch on the '73 & Up K-member interferes with any V8 block and B/RB oil pump. Use the brackets and insulators from a 273 and bolt in a 273, or 318. All it took was a new bellhousing, flywheel, clutch and pressure plate. Superspare; Oct 17, 2022; 1971 - 1974 Mopars; 2. That's my 500" 440, I used the M1 intake before witch is lower. A basic LA 318 should work too. A forum community dedicated to all Dodge owners and enthusiasts. slant 6 to 318 conversion. Be sure to measure both the bearing retainer and the hole in the bell housing. A few things to keep in mind. I want to keep this car kinda calm because its for commuting to school for 80 miles a day round trip 5 days a week. Come join the discussion about restoration, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The 318 and /6 radiator necks come out in different locations - so a radiator will be needed. This reduces chamber volume from 54 to 44cc and bumps compression from 8.4 to 9.2:1 with stock flat-top pistons. Your transmission has a slant 6 bolt pattern, and so will only bolt to the 170/198/225 slant series of engines. Used Schu's on my HEMI, good quality stuff. $154.95. 1967-72 A-Body V8 340/360 Replacement or Upgrade Kit. just changed a 6 to a 318, 74 duster,have a 8,25 rear end, didnt want to change k member, used shumacher mounts,requires drivers side motor mount to be shortened, and a 9/16 hole to be drilled,template comes with mounts, used a 904 from small block,drive shaft worked that came with 6 ,,,you add 180 lbs by going 318, but i used a aluminum intake and headers which removed nearly 100 lbs,all they recommend to change is shocks, and according to headers you have to change the steering arm to a v8 car, it has a curve , the 6 cylinder is straight arm. Hardware. (1) Left LS Swap Motor Mount. To do the swap you need to cut out the 6cyl frame mounts and weld in V8 frame mounts from a donor car or make your own. 1981 D150 'Slant Six to 440 Swap' . It would be best to have a parts car to access for those things you miss. Gives it a different feeling when driving. You have lots of options for kickdown including Lokar cables or even using easy to find 318 2bbl kickdown (yes, it will work with a 4bbl pretty easy). Add to Cart. Ten miles per gallon seems about right for that combination. $151.95. swap forum to be proper, 2nd, no. slant six and 318 bellhousings are different. It may not display this or other websites correctly. JavaScript is disabled. Secondly, with that transmission work with a 318? There is nothing more disheartening than too much camshaft, not enough converter, no vacuum, too much gear to make the cruises, overheating, and miserable driving tendencies. I've used the trans-dapt kit on my Dart, everything bolted in nice and the engine placement was in the right spot. $692.99. i am not sure about standard trans swaps. Ram Year. Then again, I was a healthier and a slight bit younger. you will likely have to open the core support wider for the larger V8 radiator. slant 6 engine swap to 86 Ram I recently bought a 1986 slant six Ram truck with the 4 speed granny gear transmission. Small Block Positive battery cable and neutral safety switch harness. Free shipping. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. JavaScript is disabled. Manage Settings The 440 will fit on the same K-member. 3.9 tbi to 5.9 carb, 2wd. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. I'm basically trying to keep my costs as minimal as possible. I think the tranny is ok, cause my brother did this same swap in his Duster and I don't remember him swapping out the tranny. The 8 1/4 rear will hold up to a street 318. Thanks for the info guys. Check where the sump is in the oil pan--you may (or may not) need to swap them. It does well enough empty, but when pulling a trailer or with a load in the back it doesn't like hills. Use the TransDapt kit if there is one. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Auto tranny selection are the light duty 904's that went behind the 225 slant six or V8 318 and the 727's that are more heavy duty that went behind 340's and 360's. My experience with a 318 was it took some massaging to . You'll need a trans with a small block (273/318/340/360) or a big block (383/400/413/426/440) pattern to swap in one of those motors. 73 Roadrunner 318 w/ 440 swap. if i had it to do over again, i would use simply swap the k member. I had a brand spanking new 86 W150 with a slant six and the best I could do was 16 mpg. I swapped my flathead 6 and powerflite with a 1964 model poly 318 and push button aluminum 727 in my 57 Plymouth. The 318 uses certain pieces, the 340 and 360 use the same pieces, and the 383, 400, and 440 use the same pieces. The 318 weighs less. Complete kit includes powder-coated brackets, urethane inserts, grade 8 bolt package, and detailed instructions. That's a big old truck with a lot of parasitic drag in the drive line. Both modifications will make your current wheels usable. Depending on what you want to do with it, i would recommend using the stock exhaust manifolds. its all direct bolt ins. You will need the proper radiator, hoses etc.. Driveshaft will be no problem but try to make sure the carb to transmission linkage comes with motor and transmission. Oct 9, 2017 #2 BudW Moderator Staff member Joined Mar 4, 2012 But there are seemingly 2 issues. You can find a v-8 A body like yours, and whack the motor mounts out of it. OER MA2264A 1973-76 Fits Mopar A-Body Fits V8 318 Repl Radiator. BC Champion 3 Row Radiator for 1965 1966 Plymouth Valiant Slant 6 Engine #CC6566. 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